Big XII Announces 2012 Football Schedules, West Virginia Included.
by Mark C. Moore on Feb 14, 2012 10:42 AM CST
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I was knee-deep in writing today's DBR when the news that was supposed to come down at 11 broke early: with the resolution of the West Virginia-Big East lawsuit in the past week or so, the Big XII has finalized its entire slate of 2012 football schedules for the again 10-team football conference. For those interested, here is a link to the entire conference schedule.
Because I know that's not what you came here for, here is Baylor's portion; Baylor plays 6 home games next season, 5 road games, and one neutral site game against Texas Tech in Cowboys Stadium.
Sept. 1 -- vs. SMU
Sept. 8 -- Off
Sept. 15 -- vs. Sam Houston State (FCS)
Sept. 22 -- @ Louisiana-Monroe (this game was originally scheduled for the last week in August and had to be moved)
Sept. 29 -- @ West Virginia (first time in school history)
Oct. 6 -- Off
Oct. 13 -- vs. TCU (they're taking A&M's schedule, it appears)
Oct. 20 -- @ Texas
Oct. 27 -- @ Iowa State
Nov. 3 -- vs. Kansas
Nov. 10 -- @ Oklahoma
Nov. 17 -- vs. Kansas State
Nov. 24 -- vs. Texas Tech (in Arlington)
Dec. 1 -- vs. Oklahoma State
We'll talk more in the future about how this schedule sets up for us, but I have a few thoughts below the jump:
- Don't like going to WV for our first conference game or having to play @ ULM. We must not have been able to find anyone for that spot.
- I like having a bye week before the TCU game and getting them early in the season. They're typically a better team, particularly on defense, the later you play them.
- Way too early predictions-- Should Wins: vs. SMU, vs. Sam Houston, @ ULM, vs. Kansas; Could Wins: vs. TCU, vs. Kansas State, @ Iowa State; vs. Texas Tech; Probable Losses: @ WV, vs. Oklahoma State, @ Texas; Definite Losses: @ Oklahoma.
- I'll admit it: it looks weird to see that schedule without A&M on it.
Thoughts?
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I'm not sold on Ok State for next year
Also-
Who is the jackwagon that thought it would be a good idea to have Texas OU, TCU @Baylor and ACL all on the same weekend?
At least Austin will be somewhat deserted from the UT folks heading to Dallas.
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They seem to have the same amount of uncertainty heading into next year as Baylor.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Pretty much the same across the board.
Both potentially starting upperclass but inexperienced QB’s
Running game experience and talent favors OSU.
Receivers favors Baylor.
Baylor has more returning experience along Oline.
D-line appears equal.
Linebackers probably favors OSU.
Losing Martin at SS is a big loss for OSU, but the advantage should still be theirs.
Quinn Sharp is one of the best kickers in the NCAA and pretty good punter as well.
By the time they meet at the end of the season, inexperience shouldn’t make much difference.
I'd say DL favors y'all as Baylor is losing their only DL I had some modicum of confidence in.
They’ll play Magee early, but I don’t expect him to have an impact until the end of the year at the earliest.
I agree that OSU has more experience in the run game, but I think Baylor’s running game will be surprisingly effective next year.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 15, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
ACL Weekend.
How’s that for an epic screw up?!
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
Was hoping for...
TCU or UT to close the year. OSU used to be the old standard to close our season. I guess Tech will get stuck in the Thanksgiving slot since that Saturday will be free from Cowboy prep or game due to Thanksgiving day game.
TMW80 if if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
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The Landthieves guy just proposed something interesting on twitter
If you could move the 11/10 game against OU to 9/8 and free up a bye week before the KState-Tech-OSU troika to end the season, would you do it?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
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Probably yes.
I don’t have much hope of beating OU in Norman this year, but if this resulted in a primetime game where we wouldn’t otherwise get one, I’d be in favor of it.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
Give me your thoughts on that schedule.
Also, I’ve read that we might not want to get too comfortable with that ULM game as-is. FSU has apparently offered them a ton of money for a game in Tallahassee, so Baylor may be on the lookout for a new game.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I just wish we could have drawn the UT Thanksgiving Day game
That would have been sweet. I guess it was just easier to plug&play with TCU into the Aggy slot.
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Right.
I’m hoping we don’t capitulate and let UT play that Thanksgiving Day game in Austin every year. That’s bullshit.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
The ULM game doesn't particularly enthuse me.
If we’re going to play cupcakes, I’d rather they at least be Texas cupcakes.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
I am actually a fan of this game.
I am living in SEC country currently (Prattville, AL). So this game is actually just a 5-6 hour drive for me. I would prefer we play someone like UAB. That would be even better.
On the other hand, I am hoping to score tickets to the Bama – Aggy or Auburn – Aggy games this year. Would love to see Aggy get pummeled.
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'd go to that ULM game, too.
Then hit up Vicksburg or something.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
As for the rest of the schedule,
I’d say 7 wins feels about right, give or take 2 wins. I agree with your should win’s and definite loss. I’d break the rest down:
Games I expect to be decent, but lean towards a win:
ISU, Tech
Tossups:
TCU, UT, OkSt
Games I expect to be decent, but lean towards a loss:
WVU, KState
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Who is up for a Road Trip?
Let’s go to Morgantown!!!
I am guessing that we will need to fly into and stay in Pittsburgh? That place looks smaller than Waco on a map.
Anyone ever been there?
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 11:56 AM CST reply actions
I've been to Pittsburgh and parts of West Virginia but not Morgantown.
West Virginia in general is going to be quite the departure from Texas for our fans.
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
We had a WVU fan stop by after the rumors of this first broke.
Right now, you basically have to fly into Pittsburgh and then drive a few hours to Morgantown. The surrounding area is supposed to be pretty nice (as far as nature/scenery goes) and the games that I’ve watched on TV suggest that they have a great CFB atmosphere, especially at night.
I’m not sure how many realize it, since LOLBigEastFootball, but WVU’s coach is the former OkSt OC and quite the spread attack proponent. Given his former recruiting of Texas, the style and tempo that he prefers, and the general support of WVU for their football and men’s basketball programs, I think they are going to be a good fit for the Big12 right away.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Morgantown
is only an hour from Pittsburgh, and between Morgantown, Fairmont (15-20 minutes south of Motown) and Clarksburg (25 minutes south of Motown) there are plently of lodging accomodations to suit your needs. :)
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Feb 14, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Glad to have you around, Airman.
Are you in the service?
Ever been in a boardroom, or a gang fight? Ever save a life? Ever won a court case against the odds? Ever held a dying buddy in your arms?.- jackanape on "perspective," 11/8/2010.
"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I am
I’m in the Air Force, currently stationed at Fort Meade in Maryland. :)
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Feb 14, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you for your service.
"The hotter the heat, the harder the steel. No pressure, no diamonds. We compete, we win. We are Baylor." - Robert Griffin III
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by Mark C. Moore on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
haha no problemo
Thank you for whatever you do. :)
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Feb 16, 2012 5:51 AM CST up reply actions
Pitt is where I am seeing everyone mention
But you might be right on it being than smaller than Waco. That is a pretty part of the country though.
TMW80 if if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
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Geno Smith and Dana Holgerson will fit in great
Let’s just hope their defense is as suspect as most other ones in this league. After watching them systematically dismantle Clemson in the Orange Bowl, I must say that our defense will need to be up to speed rather quickly next year.
How big is it that we have CPB? He was the DC at Pitt for those “back-yard brawls” with UWV. I bet he knows a thing or two about how to slow them down.
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 12:14 PM CST reply actions
It will count towards eligibility.
FCS games have counted towards eligibility for the past few years.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Is it still just 1, or could we get a 2nd one?
I am worried about replacing ULM if we have to late…
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Not every year.
You can use one FCS game toward bowl eligibility every two years, I believe. We didn’t need one last year, so we can use it this year, if need be.
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
Man I hope we are past counting to "6" every year.
Let’s start counting to 10, 11 and maybe 12 or… dare to dream 13 or 14?!?!?!
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't lived right enough for that to happen yet...
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Amen to that brother.
But you are on the right track. We had 10 his year!!!
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
How would you get to 14 wins in the current Big12 format?
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Guess I should have "replied" to you
I still have to get used to this SBN template.
One more thing though… Didn’t i read a few weeks back that the BCS was also considering a +1 system? That would create more football too. Of course, they may have thrown that idea out as it makes too much sense. Or I could have just been smoking crack.
by Texas Stranger on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
They've thrown it out
and it looks to be coming in the future…but it won’t happen until after 2014 at the earliest, I believe. That’s probably about the earliest you could hope for more additions to the Big12 in hopes of a championship game, also.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Well, i did not say "current".
After we poach Clemson and FSU from the ACC, we will be back to a championship game with 12 teams.
I can’t see our league sticking at 10 teams for very long. We will get to 12 very soon.
I don't think that's happening (the ACC thing).
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"do you a jet ski rental place would work here" - Mike E, 5/10/2011.
I don't see any way we poach from the ACC.
They made good moves proactively that fit with their overall theme and seem to be fairly stable.
If you’re looking at more additions, look towards schools like Louisville, BYU, and maybe Cinci.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
However
it’s pretty commonly accepted that Clemson is not happy with the basketball-centric ACC officials, and it’s also commonly accepted that the ACC almost always favors the NORTH Carolina schools (and VT in football.)
I think ideally Clemson would love to be in the SEC, but USC would block that. If you throw enough money at them, they will come to the Big 12…
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Feb 14, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
I can see that,
but a football conference with FSU, Clemson, VaTech and Pitt is pretty solid.
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by Prashanth Francis on Feb 14, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Though Pitt being relevant again… ehh… not saying it won’t happen, but I’ll believe it when I see it. Chryst should be a good coach.
The fact is the ACC has a terrible reputation, especially when it comes to the Bowl season. Their tv money will never rival that of the Big XII or Pac 12. Add Florida State and Clemson to the mix of the Big 12, and the Big 12 could potentially receive a deal not too awfully far from the SEC, I would imagine. Florida State arguably has a big a presence in Florida as UF. If you combine that with the way the Big 12 absolutely dominates Texas, then right there you have the two biggest football markets under your belt. (Well, one and a half. Texas is huge enough to count multiple times. haha)
"that place laid the foundation for who I am. A lot of outsiders make fun of it and say negative things about West Virginia. Fuck them" - Jerry West
by MountaineerAirman on Feb 14, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions
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